Comments on: Don't Bring A Fist to A Knife Fight http://unarmedanddangerous.com/368/dont-bring-a-fist-to-a-knife-fight/ Self Defence And Advanced Street Combat Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:52:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: rezbi http://unarmedanddangerous.com/368/dont-bring-a-fist-to-a-knife-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-110 rezbi Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:47:50 +0000 http://unarmedanddangerous.com/?p=368#comment-110 I know there are some who would disagree with this post, and the ending, but that my opinion. I know there are some who would disagree with this post, and the ending, but that my opinion.

]]> By: anonymous http://unarmedanddangerous.com/368/dont-bring-a-fist-to-a-knife-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-109 anonymous Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:40:54 +0000 http://unarmedanddangerous.com/?p=368#comment-109 Oooo interesting ending to this post. Well done. I'd go by the title of this post. I wouldn't bring my fists. Instead, i'd bring my legs to help create THAT distance. Oooo interesting ending to this post. Well done. I'd go by the title of this post. I wouldn't bring my fists. Instead, i'd bring my legs to help create THAT distance.

]]> By: rezbi http://unarmedanddangerous.com/368/dont-bring-a-fist-to-a-knife-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-65 rezbi Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:08:36 +0000 http://unarmedanddangerous.com/?p=368#comment-65 tzatza I agree and that's why I made the statement at the end about fighting for your life anyway you can. What I have a problem with is when instructors teach things without the proper knowledge and give their students a false sense of security. What I mean by that is that they will teach them knife defence and let them think they can use them at any time without the need to avoid getting into a confrontation. Some instructors will teach their techniques and let the student think the technique is so good you can disarm an attacker at any time. The fact is, anyone teaching knife techniques should leave them under no impression that they are only to be used when they have their 'back to the wall' with no way of escape. Otherwise the best thing to do would be to just get out of there. Don't do what Richard Pryor said, "Macho man. I'll take that knife and stick it up your arse". And then you end up with the knife up yours. tzatza

I agree and that’s why I made the statement at the end about fighting for your life anyway you can.

What I have a problem with is when instructors teach things without the proper knowledge and give their students a false sense of security.

What I mean by that is that they will teach them knife defence and let them think they can use them at any time without the need to avoid getting into a confrontation.

Some instructors will teach their techniques and let the student think the technique is so good you can disarm an attacker at any time.

The fact is, anyone teaching knife techniques should leave them under no impression that they are only to be used when they have their ‘back to the wall’ with no way of escape.

Otherwise the best thing to do would be to just get out of there.

Don’t do what Richard Pryor said, “Macho man. I’ll take that knife and stick it up your arse”.

And then you end up with the knife up yours.

]]> By: tzatza http://unarmedanddangerous.com/368/dont-bring-a-fist-to-a-knife-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-64 tzatza Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:53:44 +0000 http://unarmedanddangerous.com/?p=368#comment-64 Even though surviving a knife attack in a situation where you can't run nor have any weapons at your disposal is extremely tricky deal, wouldn't it still be useful to teach things for the IN CASE situation? Such techniques that aim to minimizing serious injury (protecting chest, neck and abdomen mainly) and answering to the attack in some kind of a way? When I've seen sensible teachers teaching effective knife defense, the main weight was never in disarming or avoiding cuts. Instead, it was to move body off the way and/or locking the knife close to body (after making sure he can't slide it into you) while simply using every possible way to cause more harm to the opponent than he can cause to you. And it was always to be expected that you will get cut and even stabbed, but that can't hinder your ability to respond. Marker pen also is a poor indicator of real damage; You can survive even hundreds of light cuts, but one lucky stab is the end of the road. It's anyway very different to fight an unarmed opponent for your life than fighting a knife wielding opponent; So, even if it's always extremely risky and most of the time simply put, a stupid thing to do, wouldn't it still be better to teach it a bit than not at all? Even though surviving a knife attack in a situation where you can’t run nor have any weapons at your disposal is extremely tricky deal, wouldn’t it still be useful to teach things for the IN CASE situation? Such techniques that aim to minimizing serious injury (protecting chest, neck and abdomen mainly) and answering to the attack in some kind of a way?

When I’ve seen sensible teachers teaching effective knife defense, the main weight was never in disarming or avoiding cuts. Instead, it was to move body off the way and/or locking the knife close to body (after making sure he can’t slide it into you) while simply using every possible way to cause more harm to the opponent than he can cause to you. And it was always to be expected that you will get cut and even stabbed, but that can’t hinder your ability to respond. Marker pen also is a poor indicator of real damage; You can survive even hundreds of light cuts, but one lucky stab is the end of the road.

It’s anyway very different to fight an unarmed opponent for your life than fighting a knife wielding opponent; So, even if it’s always extremely risky and most of the time simply put, a stupid thing to do, wouldn’t it still be better to teach it a bit than not at all?

]]> By: Alex McMahon http://unarmedanddangerous.com/368/dont-bring-a-fist-to-a-knife-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-63 Alex McMahon Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:16:15 +0000 http://unarmedanddangerous.com/?p=368#comment-63 Good Morning Rezbi I Think Very Highly of Dave, HE ISTHE BEST Self Defence Instructor I have ever worked with, the man is just so Awesome he has an amazing amount of Knowledge and Experience, and he is so helpful if you have a question or cant get a move right Dave will have an answer for you and will make sure before you go you understand the technique or move. he is also a perfect gentleman, an all round great guy respectfully Alex Good Morning Rezbi
I Think Very Highly of Dave, HE ISTHE BEST Self Defence Instructor I have ever worked with, the man is just so Awesome he has an amazing amount of Knowledge
and Experience, and he is so helpful if you have a question or cant get a move right
Dave will have an answer for you and will make sure before you go you understand
the technique or move.
he is also a perfect gentleman, an all round great guy
respectfully
Alex

]]> By: rezbi http://unarmedanddangerous.com/368/dont-bring-a-fist-to-a-knife-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-62 rezbi Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:25:44 +0000 http://unarmedanddangerous.com/?p=368#comment-62 I'm pretty certain Dave has run a weapons course before. I probably would not be able to attend one at the moment due to personal circumstances. Although, I'd be the first one had my situation been different. There's not many people out there who think as highly of Dave's work as I do, and I'm sure he'd back up that statement. I’m pretty certain Dave has run a weapons course before.

I probably would not be able to attend one at the moment due to personal circumstances.

Although, I’d be the first one had my situation been different.

There’s not many people out there who think as highly of Dave’s work as I do, and I’m sure he’d back up that statement.

]]> By: Alex McMahon http://unarmedanddangerous.com/368/dont-bring-a-fist-to-a-knife-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-61 Alex McMahon Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:14:45 +0000 http://unarmedanddangerous.com/?p=368#comment-61 Rezbi yes I totally agree with you, but if you are fighting for your life against a person (Male or Female)who has an edged weapon yes you will get stabbed or cut but 3 of the most knowledgable people I know Dave Turton, & Tony Agostini (UK) &Jim Trifiro (US)who are all very very Knowledgable Master Instructors & who all teach edged weapons defence have said that you determine where you get cut not the attacker which is good advice (and it all comes down to training with edged weapons) and or shockknife which is an excellent training tool. I think dave should run an edged weapons weekend would you attend it I definaatly would Respectfully Alex Rezbi
yes I totally agree with you, but if you are fighting for your life against a person (Male or Female)who has an edged weapon yes you will get stabbed or cut but 3 of the most knowledgable people I know Dave Turton, & Tony Agostini (UK) &Jim Trifiro (US)who are all very very Knowledgable Master Instructors & who all teach edged weapons defence have said that you determine where you get cut not the attacker
which is good advice (and it all comes down to training with edged weapons) and or shockknife which is an excellent training tool.
I think dave should run an edged weapons weekend would you attend it I definaatly would
Respectfully
Alex

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